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Re: Organic Tobacco Production & Grow Your Own

Postby dz on 08 Nov 2009, 12:58

No clue then tekwyzrd? I did plant quite a few varieties but when the planter accident occurred it was impossible to tell what was what. I just picked whatever looked like it might survive since it was too early for transplanting at that point. Maybe they were also dwarfed from the shock/early planting.
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Re: Organic Tobacco Production & Grow Your Own

Postby tekwyzrd on 08 Nov 2009, 13:42

dz wrote:No clue then tekwyzrd? I did plant quite a few varieties but when the planter accident occurred it was impossible to tell what was what. I just picked whatever looked like it might survive since it was too early for transplanting at that point. Maybe they were also dwarfed from the shock/early planting.


If you list what you planted we might be able to determine what it is. For reference I went out and picked a leaf off of a third growth samsun 15 sucker and took a photo. I think the shape could be better described as "like a spade from a deck of cards" rather than "heart shaped"
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The low temperatures at night have started to do them in but the tobacco plants are pretty determined. The second growth samsun 15 were almost five feet tall when I harvested them. What do I mean by second growth and third growth? After harvesting I cut the original stalks to two or three leaf nodes and allowed one sucker to grow. They grew to nice leaf producing stalks for what I call my "sucker crop". I plan to plant earlier next year, reducing my total number of plants to 120 - 150 but harvesting early enough to allow the "sucker crop" time to mature. This way I'll get nearly twice the yield from a given number of plants. From 120 plants I could probably get 50 lbs.
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Re: Organic Tobacco Production & Grow Your Own

Postby Alist on 08 Nov 2009, 14:08

tekwyzrd, you need to write a book on growing tobacco and include all of these tips. I would buy it for sure.
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Re: Organic Tobacco Production & Grow Your Own

Postby tekwyzrd on 08 Nov 2009, 14:57

I hope to have one of my tobacco related domain names in use soon. I purchased four domain names a couple of months ago and am considering a few more. The first will be a comprehensive source of information pertaining to different strains of tobacco, cultivation, curing, history, etc. I plan to offer seed there to support the site and expansion of my efforts in growing organic tobacco.
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Re: Organic Tobacco Production & Grow Your Own

Postby dz on 08 Nov 2009, 18:09

tekwyzrd wrote:If you list what you planted we might be able to determine what it is. For reference I went out and picked a leaf off of a third growth samsun 15 sucker and took a photo. I think the shape could be better described as "like a spade from a deck of cards" rather than "heart shaped"


Thanks for the comment tekwyzrd, it's obviously not Samsun, I was looking at whole plant pics on the Net and not a closeup like the leaf you posted. At 7ft+ your's is about double the size of my plants. From memory, since I planted whole packs and discarded the stakes after the planter incident I planted: Medewivan Sacred, Monte Calme Yellow, Va Gold, White Burley, Md (901 or some #), Rustica, Bafra, Basma, Samsun, Rose.....that's about all I can recall offhand but I bet there's a few more, I'll post any others if I recall. I do remember that at the time of the planting the Rustica and Midewivans were some of the largest, earliest sprouting seedlings. This is why I was thinking they might be either of these, plus I believe I read these are small tobacco plants.
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Re: Organic Tobacco Production & Grow Your Own

Postby dz on 20 Dec 2009, 03:02

tekwyzrd wrote:If you list what you planted we might be able to determine what it is.


since I planted whole packs and discarded the stakes after the planter incident I planted: Medewivan Sacred, Monte Calme Yellow, Va Gold, White Burley, Md (901 or some #), Rustica, Bafra, Basma, Samsun, Rose.....that's about all I can recall offhand but I bet there's a few more, I'll post any others if I recall


No clue tekwyzrd (I should have bulleted them)? I can't think of any others.
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Re: Organic Tobacco Production & Grow Your Own

Postby tekwyzrd on 21 Dec 2009, 14:23

dz wrote:
tekwyzrd wrote:If you list what you planted we might be able to determine what it is.


since I planted whole packs and discarded the stakes after the planter incident I planted: Medewivan Sacred, Monte Calme Yellow, Va Gold, White Burley, Md (901 or some #), Rustica, Bafra, Basma, Samsun, Rose.....that's about all I can recall offhand but I bet there's a few more, I'll post any others if I recall


No clue tekwyzrd (I should have bulleted them)? I can't think of any others.



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Re: Organic Tobacco Production & Grow Your Own

Postby Mnhbhe73 on 23 Dec 2009, 07:12

The tobacco leaf looks likea collard green. Are tabacco and greens grown the same way?
If so Ill take a shot at it.
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Re: Organic Tobacco Production & Grow Your Own

Postby tekwyzrd on 25 Dec 2009, 14:19

Tobacco is different than growing greens. I'd suggest visiting How to Grow Tobacco for a bit of reading. The tobacco leaf in the picture was from the secondary stalk of a samsun 15 plant that had been cut down to harvest. The original stalk was over 7 ft tall. The secondary stalk that I allowed to grow was just short of 5 ft when harvested. Due to my experience this year with the yield of my "sucker crop" I plan to sow earlier so plants are larger at planting and mature early enough to allow time for a fully mature "sucker crop".
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